Toby Keith: Graduates with honors from 'Honkytonk University'
By Ray Waddell
Billboard magazine
Call Toby Keith "oil field trash" if you want to; this Oklahoma native considers it a compliment. Fiercely independent, loyal to his inner circle and stubborn in his convictions, Keith makes no apologies for his background or his beliefs.
While he may look ticked off, Keith is actually having a real good time. He is perennially ranked among country's elite touring artists, thanks to a knack for writing hit songs and a platinum streak at retail.
That streak continued with his new album, "Honkytonk University," which debuted at No. 1 on Billboard's Top Country Albums chart and at No. 2 on the Billboard 200 as Keith prepared to launch his Big Throwdown II summer tour last month in Charlotte, N.C. The tour comes to Riverbend Music Center on Sunday - and "Honkytonk University" has just wrapped up a six-week run at No. 1 on the country album chart. Keith's latest single, "As Good As I Once Was" is No. 2 on the country singles chart.
If Keith is portrayed - inaccurately, he says - as a gun-waving right-winger, largely because of his support for U.S. troops, he can handle it. "It comes with a lot of pain, being that guy, but it's nothing like serving over there," he says. "That's real pain."
Here he weighs in on honky-tonks, the record business and the fine art of being Toby Keith:
Billboard: How autobiographical is the title cut of your new album, "Honkytonk University"?
Keith: Dead on. 100 percent.
Billboard: Including the part about your grandma's honky-tonk?
Keith: Yeah, she had one down on the Arkansas-Oklahoma line, in Fort Smith, Ark., right across the river from Oklahoma. That's the first place I was ever exposed to a band when I was a child.
Billboard: I bet that was a rowdy place, getting those Arkansans and Oklahomans together.
Keith: She was like Miss Kitty; she ran a pretty tight place. It was the last of a dying breed of what you called supper clubs, where the front end was a tavern - longnecks, jukebox and pool - and then you went into the back for fine dining and a nice band that played swing music and current country and a little bit of old rock 'n' roll.
Billboard: That was a pretty good musical education, wasn't it?
Keith: Absolutely. I told that high-school teacher I'd never need any calculus.
Billboard: I guess football and music were your two main interests, then, growing up.
Keith: By the time I was in high school I'd already been into football for seven or eight years. It was starting to jade me a little bit. I could see a future from my dad in the oil fields. I've always been a survivor and a very resourceful person, so that's what I did: I started gravitating toward my strengths, writing songs and singing and playing music. I knew football wasn't going to get me anywhere, but I had to go play some semi-pro just to get it out of my system.
Billboard: When was the first time you got paid to play a guitar and sing?
Keith: First time I ever got paid for it was at a wedding, right out of high school. We played a wedding and somebody gave us $1,000, and that's where the band came up with the name Easy Money. After we went to the taverns, it was $35 a man a night, plus your beer. I never did go to college - went straight out of high school to work with my dad in the oil fields. I went to Honky Tonk U.
Billboard: How did you end up in Nashville?
Keith: I never did really go there, they sort of came to me. I went (to Nashville) one time for a meeting with (then Capitol Nashville president) Jimmy Bowen. He's pretty legendary in that town. I came in with a bunch of songs, and I found out later he was on the golf course and didn't have time to take a meeting. He put one of his flunkies on me, and the guy kind of spanked me and sent me home. Harold Shedd (the producer of Alabama and others) heard a tape of me and flew into Oklahoma and heard me play live and signed me to Mercury. I still tease Bowen and say, "You had your chance 25 million records ago."
Billboard: So basically you got signed off the noise you were making in Oklahoma?
Keith: It was regional. We were doing real well in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Kansas, Colorado, Arkansas, that little circuit there. There were seven or eight bands that rotated through there, including a band called Canyon that was really hot, out of Texas.
A band called Stallion, a band called Lariat that turned into Ricochet. Little Texas was in that loop, Ricky Lynn Gregg's band was in that loop. Jim Collins, the writer, he had a band that was hot. Part of the Lonestar boys were mixtures, I think, of Southern Wind and Canyon. It was a great training ground. I don't even think they have that quality of circuit anymore.
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